Racists, Reformists and Revolutionaries: A Conversation with Yousef Azizi Benitorof

Racists, Reformists and Revolutionaries: A Conversation with Yousef Azizi Benitorof

Sima Sahar Zerehi – For a few days, or few hours, depending on how engrossed you were in the events, the entire world was Tunisian, than Egyptian and now Libyan?

Youth from all over the region looked to the Middle East and thought that today is a good day to be Arab.

For Iranians the youth-led pro-democracy movements in the Arab world injected a new energy into the streets of Esfahan, Mashad, Shiraz and Tehran. Once again Iranians took to the streets with newly minted slogans inspired by the streets of Cairo.

Slogans like: “Mobarak, Ben Ali, nobate Seyed Ali” which translates to Mobarak (Hosni Mubarak the ousted Egyptian President), Ben Ali (Zine El Abidine Ben Ali the fallen president of Tunisia) now it’s Seyed Ali’s turn, a reference to Seyed Ali Khamenei the current (soon to be former) Supreme Leader of Iran.

In Tehranto we also rallied in solidarity with the people of Iran, this time we were armed with new placards and slogans connecting the revolutions in Tunisia and Tahrir to the mobilizations in the streets of Tehran.

It seemed that for a brief moment historical fissured between Iranians and Arabs were set aside as Iranian youth and Arab youth were united in their struggle for democracy against tyrannical dictators.

I even received a Facebook message from a young Iranian looking for contacts in Egypt to do an interview for a student publication.

Sure for those of you who are Canadian, American, or European, this unity between Iranians and the Arab world seems natural.  After all, EYE-RAN, EYE-RAQ what’s the diff right?

But for Iranians we have the Iran/Iraq war, the Sunni/Shia divide, and the legacy of the Arab invasions in the sixth century.  We hold a grudge.

But all that seemed ancient history as Iranian youth in Toronto enthusiastically chanted slogans of solidarity with Tunisia and Egypt.

And then it happed, a middle-aged man, in his fifties or sixties perhaps, waving an Iranian flag from day’s gone by, chanted:  “Nasl-e man Aria, Din az Siasat Joda.” Which loosely translates to “My Origin is Arian, Religion and Politics must be separated.”

Now you have to know a thing or two about Iranians to understand the impact of this slogan.  The second part about separating religion from politics was a no brainer; we were all in support of that.  But the first part . . .

You see for the outsider, it’s easy to see Iranians in Tehranto as a monolithic bunch.

To the untrained Westernized eye we all look and sound fairy similar, a nondescript brown crowd of prominent noses and arched brows.

It’s only when you look closer, when you become an insider that you start seeing the fractures, fragments and factions in the community.

When you know the language you can discern the various accents and intonations, and that’s were the discrimination and racism begins.

The slogan was a reference to the idea of Iran as a community of Arians, which deliberately excludes Iranian-Arabs, Iranian-Turkemans, Iranian-Kurds, Iranian-Azari’s, and Iranian-Baluchs to name a few.

In short the chant was asking for an Iran that did not include over thirty five percent of its population.

According to Yousef Azizi Benitorof an Arab-Iranian writer and journalist and the Chairman of the Centre for Combatting Racism and Discrimination against Arabs, it is this intolerance towards various nationalities in Iran that has prevented the Green movement from overthrowing the Islamic regime.

Azizi Benitorof explains, “Iran has various nationalities, in addition to the Persian population we have Turks, Arab, Baluch, Lurs, and Turkemans.  A democratic movement in Iran will have its own unique challenges.”

According to Azizi Benitorof there are two simultaneous movements growing in Iran.  He notes, “One movement is the Green movement which is alive in places like Tehran, Esfahan and Shiraz, the Persian regions of Iran.”

He continues, “There’s also a movement of the non-Persian nationalities that is alive beside this Green movement, this is an anti-racist movement, a movement for linguistic rights and equality.”

Azizi Benitorof adds, “These two movements are moving side by side and they are engaged in a dialogue but they have not yet become united.”

He quickly adds, “This does not mean that there are no non Persians in the Green movement, but they are a minority.”

Azizi Benitorof’s sees the unity of these two movements as the true emergence of the pro-democracy movement in Iran.  He states, “When the green movement and the movement for minority rights are put together as one entity they will emerge as a true pro-democracy movement in Iran.”

While Azizi Benitorof remains optimistic about the dialogue between these two simultaneous movements, he admits, “There is disagreement between the leaders of the Green movement and the leaders of the movements that represents the various nationalities in Iran.”

He explains, “As the minority rights leaders we refuse to fight alongside the majority Persian population again without having our rights acknowledge.”

He adds, “We refuse to participate in your movement without having our conditions met.  The leaders of the Green movement must announce that minority rights would be included in their vision for a new Iran.  They must accept federalism as part of their platform.”

Azizi Benitorof notes, “Until now the dialogue between the leaders of the minority rights movement and the leaders of the Green movement have been conducted primarily on the internet with a few minor exceptions.”

“People like me and others from Turk, and Kurdish communities would write and publish on the internet and active members of the Green movement would read our pieces.  Similarly, we would closely follow all the major statements issued by the Green movement,” recounts Azizi Benitorof.

Despite the limitations in the dialogue between the two movements for change in Iran, Azizi Benitorof believes that real change is inevitable.  He notes, “There are two possibilities.  One that Karoubi and Mousavi, the figureheads of Iran’s Green movement will confirm and echo the demands of the people on the ground or if they don’t a new seed will emerge from the heart of the movement like Tunisia and Egypt.”

Azizi Benitorof sees the trajectory of the recent revolutions in the Middle East as a possible blueprint for Iran.  He states, “Tunisia and Egypt seem to be classic examples of revolutions.  In both cases faced with an oppressive government that failed to represent the people and an ineffectual opposition that seemed to at best be flirting with the regime, a third force emerged from within.”

Azizi Benitorof expands, “The various parties, the Marxists, Liberals, Islamists were all unable to bring about any real change in Egypt, and therefore a new power emerged, the new youth movement.”

Azizi Benitorof remains extremely hopeful about the future for a democratic movement in Iran.  He notes, “No power can stand against this pro-democracy movement.  In the recent past we’ve seen two regimes in Tunisia and Egypt collapse. Now we are seeing how Libya, a dictatorship that we thought would not budge, be shaken to its core.  In Morocco, Yemen, Bahrain the calls for democracy are boiling over.”

According to Azizi Benitorof, “Iran is the closest country to these Arabic nations.  It is very similar and there is a dialectical relationship between Iran and the Arab world.”

Azizi Benitorof ends by stating, “The revolutions in Tunisia and Egypt have given new potential to the revolutionary momentum in Iran. Now we can see that the youth are paying particular attention to the revolutions in Yemen, Tunisia, and Bahrain.  Among these youth in Iran is a population of four to five million Arabs in Ahvaz who watch Al Jazeera twenty-four hours a day and celebrate the gains of the pro-democracy movement in the Middle East.”

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  1. I regret for Shahrvand magazine!
    This guy that they call ‘writer’ and ‘intellectual’ and member of ‘the Iranian Writers Association’ is a mediocre person with some superficial opinions about social issues. His writings in Farsi are noticeably weak and unrefined. More importantly, he is supported by a backward regime like Saudi Arabia and Al-Arbia.
    Simply put, he is a shame for Shahrvand.

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  2. These guys are sometimes dead on their political gambits. The Young Turks remain as a interesting view. I hope they will continue be corageous enough to tell it like it is and oppose the GOP funded Fox Network propaganda.

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  3. The late Mr. Homayoun beautifully summarized the modus operandi of Iran’s ethnic agitators: They lie, use half-truths, and repeat them so many times such that the audience start believing them.

    I am not as strident as that great man. I think these people are probably sincere. However, they suffer from a the general malaise of Iranian public figures, but in a more severe from. To put it bluntly, Iranian society does not produce many good public intellectuals. People who jump to fill these empty spots are just not that good. Once you move from those who write for a nation to those who write for their ethnic group or tribe, you observe a downward spiral from bad to eye-wateringly abysmal.

    There are many excellent Iranian experts. But these people do not don the mantle of intellectual. To make my point clear, I give you an example: in discussions about Iranian economy, you always hear about Mr. Fariborz Rais-Dana. Yet you never hear from professor Hashem Pesaran. Rais-Dana is a public figure. He does not know the first thing about modern economics, but he gives people fiery sermons. Pesaran on the other hand, is one of the top economists globally and a heavy-weight in oil and macroeconomy. Another example is Ali Reza Asgharzadeh and Abbas Amanat. Asgharzadeh even lies about his academic position (he is not a tenure-track or tenured member of York University’s sociology department) but Amanat is leading light in Yale’s history department. Yet Asgharzadeh heaps falsehood after falsehood in the current issue of Shahrvand, but you never hear anything from (or no one seeks out) Amanat.

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  4. Each profession has certain standards for acceptable practice. Probably the most basic standard in journalism is due diligence and checking the facts. In this respect, unfortunately, Ms. Zerehi has failed miserably.

    Ms. Zerehi could just use Wikipedia and a few google searches to find that contrary to what she has written, the outdated idea of an Arian race for Iranians in fact includes Kurds and Baluchis. That said, the undisputed fact remains that Kurds and Baluchis speak Indo-Iranian languages, just like Persian speakers.

    Fact number two that Ms. Zerehi failed to check is that Iran, contrary to what Mr. Banitorof says, is a multi-ethnic society, but does not have “multiple nationalities”. A nationality is tied to the idea of a nation-state. Iran is a nation state. So there is one nationality, Iranian, but many ethnicities. I know that Canada accepts Quebec residents as a “nation”, but to tell you the truth, it makes most people laugh in other democratic Western countries.

    Fact number three is that while discrimination is rampant and ugly in Iran, it is not based on linguistic traits or ethnicity. The twin pillars of prejudice and discrimination in Iran are gender and religion. More precisely, Shi’ism and 100% devotion to the IR system will get you to go far, regardless of your ethnic background and primary language spoken at home. Mrs. Khameneiee, Khaz’ali, Shamkhani, Davoudi, Rezaiee, … all have ethnic minority backgrounds. Yet they have gotten as far as supreme leader.

    Fact number four is that ethnic rivalry is not the same as racism. You want racism, try Russia. Racism is accompanied by symptomatic denial of opportunities and oppression based on race. Notes made in the previous point apply here too.

    Last but not least, Mr. Azizi-Banitorof is not considered impartial. In fact, many reasonable people consider him as a known Arab ultranationalist with antisemitic and Pan-Arabist tendencies, attested by his own writings. The fact that he was once a member of that long-standing joke, Iranian writers’ association, does not change much about his political leanings. He naturally has the absolute right to hold and express his opinions, but he is not entitled to pass his opinions as facts. Unless I am much mistaken, Shahrvand at least pretends to conform with factuality of what it publishes. If that’s the case, dear Ms. Zerehi, you fail yet again.

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  5. ” Among these youth in Iran is a population of four to five million Arabs in Ahvaz who watch Al Jazeera twenty-four hours a day and celebrate the gains of the pro-democracy movement in the Middle “..

    Where is Ahvaz? Ahvaz is a city in Iran? If he is referring to Khuzestan, the majority are Iranian speakers (various dialects of Persian including Bakhtiari and Luri). You can be more discrete about being a separatist. Khuzestan will always be part of Iran and the era of Shaykh Khaz’al and Saddam is over. Thanks.

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  6. Kurds and Baluchs are actually Arian and Kurds are very active in the green movement. Mr. Bani Torof is a pan-Arabist who exaggerates the population of Arab speakers in Iran to be 8 million. It should be noted Khuzestan itself is majority Persian(Lur/Bakhtiari also counts as Persian/Iranian). The green movement for example has much more noise from Kermanshah and Kurdistan than say Mash-had, Kerman and Yazd. So the analysis of Mr. bani Torof who is thinking tribally does not hold. Ultimately with the end of Saddam, the pan-Arabism of Mr. Bani Torof died. Erdogan is also putting the death nail to the end of pan-Turkism (i.e. Reza Beraheni and his crew).

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  7. This is a very very good article, and to one who is English and struggles to be informed, very informative. It explains to me why the change hasn’t yet taken place in Iran, and at the same time why it will. What a blessing the youth are today.

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